Hidden Fates Pack EV: Is the Shiny Vault Worth Ripping?

Right now: the best rip in Hidden Fates is the Booster Pack at $46.78 against $14.51 of expected pulls — a −74% margin after ~15% selling fees. Figures refresh every two hours.

Hidden Fates hit shelves on August 23, 2019 and became the Sun & Moon era's defining special set on the strength of the Shiny Vault — a subset of shiny Pokémon capped by shiny Charizard-GX, the card that still anchors most of the set's value. There was never a 36-pack booster box: packs shipped inside Elite Trainer Boxes, tins, pin collections and the Ultra-Premium Collection, which keeps sealed supply tight and prices stubborn.

The odds are unusually friendly by vintage standards. Every pack carries a dedicated Shiny Vault slot — roughly 1 in 3 packs produces a baseline shiny, a shiny GX lands about 1 in 17, and the rainbow or gold tier shows up around 1 in 67. Even the regular holo slot yields a GX about 3 in 10 packs. Those are community estimates, not official numbers, but they explain why ripping Hidden Fates feels so generous.

Feeling generous and being profitable are different things. The pack price bakes in years of Charizard hype, so the average rip recovers only a fraction of what you paid — the live table below shows exactly how wide that gap is right now.

Sealed products: price vs. expected value

ProductMargin after ~15% feesMarket priceEV of pulls
Booster Pack −74% $46.78 $14.51
Elite Trainer Box −91% $552.76 $58.04
Ultra-Premium Collection −85% $1275.00 $232.17

Pull-rate model

Hidden Fates packs hold 10 cards; the slots below are the ones that carry value.

SlotOutcomeEst. chance
Reverse HoloReverse Holo100%
Holo Rare slotRare Holo60%
Holo Rare slotRare Holo GX30%
Holo Rare slotRare Ultra10%
Shiny Vault slotHolo Rare (baseline)62.5%
Shiny Vault slotShiny Rare (SV)30%
Shiny Vault slotShiny GX / V (SV)6%
Shiny Vault slotShiny Rainbow / Gold1.5%

Community-estimated rates — no publisher discloses official pull odds. The calculator prices each outcome from live singles data.

FAQ

Does Hidden Fates have a booster box?

No. Hidden Fates was never sold in 36-pack booster boxes. Packs came in Elite Trainer Boxes, tins, pin collections and the Ultra-Premium Collection, which is a big part of why sealed supply is so tight.

What are the Shiny Vault pull rates?

Our model puts a baseline Shiny Vault shiny at roughly 1 in 3 packs, a shiny GX at about 1 in 17, and a rainbow or gold secret near 1 in 67. These are community estimates — The Pokémon Company doesn't publish official rates.

What is the main chase in Hidden Fates?

The Shiny Vault subset, topped by shiny Charizard-GX. Shiny GX cards and the gold secrets fill out the top tier, with regular GX and ultra rares behind them.

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